Marc Maes

Marc Maes is a member of the coalition of Belgian non-governmental organizations (NGOs) known as 11.11.11 He , was interviewed by Wilma Massucco  during the Seminary "Partnership for Change" promoted by Amici dei Popoli NGO (Bologna, Italy, 2010)
 

 

 

 

Introduction to interview

EPAs and EU POLICY COHERENCE FOR DEVELOPMENT

Marc Maes, member of a Belgian coalition of non-governmental organizations (NGOs) known as 11.11.11, believes that the current EPAs (Economic Partnership Agreements) arranged by the EU to open a free trade market between EU and the ACP Countries, are not really focused to support Development, as EU is affirming. In his opinion, if the ACP Countries signed the EPAs, the immediate consequences would be an increase of their internal costs, less Government income and the division of Africa.

Read more in his interview what he suggests EPAs should be in order to really support Development.


Key points of the interview

Marc Maes believes that the current EPAs (Economic Partnership Agreements) arranged by the EU to make ACP economy liberalization, i.e. to open a free trade market between EU and the ACP (African, Caribbean, Pacific) Countries, are not really devolved to support Development, as EU is affirming. In his opinion the ACP Countries need time to build their original integration and their infrastructures, and to strengthen their Institution capacity and Productive capacity, before opening their market especially for the European imports, but the EU pushes ACP Countries to sign the current EPAs asap. With the immediate consequences, for ACP, of an increase of internal costs, less Government income, the division of Africa. He suggests EU and the ACP Countries should find, together, ways to strengthen and support the development of Africa, instead of making an exercise in which ACP Countries have to put a cross on a paper presented by the European Union.
 


 

Video interview on YouTube

What are EPAs (Economic Partnership Agreements); discussion about the Development concept related to EPAs, seen by the point of view of EU and of ACP Countries
 

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EU Policy coherence versus MDGs and EPAs - What would be the effect if all the ACP countries signed the EPAs?

 


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Interview, written integral edition

 


What are EPAs?
EPAs are free trade agreements between the European Union and the ACP Countries. The EU wants those agreements to bring very far , reaching liberalization of economy in the ACP Countries.

Is there any different interpretation of EPAs seen from the point of view of EU and from the point of view of ACP Countries, related also to what expressed in the Cotonou Agreement?
Yes, there’s a big difference of use. The EU says: “If the ACP Countries liberalize the Economy, Development will be welcome” and most of the ACP Countries, especially the African Countries, say: “Look, we first have to build our original integration, our infrastructures, we have to strengthen our Institution capacity, our Productive capacity, and only then, at later stage, we can think of how we’re going to open our market especially for the European imports”. So the ACP approach is one in which EPAs will be more about really partnership and cooperation to strengthen capacity, while for the European Union EPAs are most about liberalization , and EU says that will bring to Development. So there’s a big discussion about the Development concept that it should be with EPAs.

How many Countries have signed the EPAs till now?
There’s only one, the Caribbean area, which signed a full EPAs agreement. In all the other Countries there is no EPA as such. There are only Interim agreements on the Trade and Goods, but these are far from being completed in the sense that they are with individual Countries and not with Regions, and they’re only related to goods and not with other issues.

What’s the position of EU related to EPAs?
The EU wants the ACP Countries to sign up to EPAs as soon as they can. The European Union has a very fix idea of what EPA should be. They have a draft EPAs line in their draws and for them this is what ACP Countries should accept, and so they continue to push ACP Countries to accept this idea, and the ACP Countries refuse.

What might be the scenery in case all the Countries of the ACP area signed the EPAs?
This is a big question. There’s a number of immediate consequences if all the ACP Countries, and Africa for instance, would signed the EPAs. Africa would be cut in four Regions, and these Regions would have better trade relations with Europe that they would have with each other. So EPAs will contribute to coving up Africa. Ann then all the question is: EPAs, of course, will also mean that ACP Countries have to eliminate their import taxes at the border. So the Government will have less income and they will also have to make all kinds of economic forms, which will be costly. So the immediate effect will be the number of costs, less income, the division of Africa. The long term effects are very doubtful. The Commission says that the long term effect will be the Development and the ACP Countries are not so sure that the long term effect will come so easily. So, will EPAs contribute something to the sustainable development of Africa? That is an open question.

In your opinion what would be the best related to EPAs in order to really support the development of the South of the World?
To my opinion the best would be to draw all people can set over board and to start it again. The European Union has to abandon its fix ideas about what EPAs should look like. ACP Countries and EU should together find ways to strengthen and support the development of Africa. But this should be an open ended exercise and not an exercise in which ACP Countries have to put a cross on a paper presented by the European Union. 

How much are you confident about this change of mind by Europe? 
I’m not very confident about this change of mind of Europe. I see that the European Union is really with a crisis in a all, sitting a market access all over the world, so they are also interested in getting this market access in Africa. So they remain determined. But since African Countries are not going along with the Commission, the European Union doesn’t seem to be getting its will, and I hope they finally accept the African choices for what EPAs should be.

Pdf version

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Other Resources

 


 

Other Resources

In order to understand the issues related to the EPAs, and the debates towards Policy Coherence for Development, Marc Maes suggested to read Mep Briefing on EPAs - August 2009

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Read the Mep Briefing on EPAs - August 2009 : http://www.eugad.eu/wiki/images/2/20/Epa_mep_briefing_aug_2009_web.pdf